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Here you can read about opinions from people all over the world who purchased the new Rebel 9.0 The input comes from the REBEL 9.0 Questionnaire which people have contributed to the Rebel Home Page. People who gave their email addres may be contacted for remaining questions. Reviews are displayed as we receive them. In useful cases the Schröder BV shortly will comment in italics. Name Lawrence S. Tamarkin Email mrslug@nwlink.com Rebel9 has just about everything one could want in a chess program: strength, database features are plentiful, and there is even a special download site on the Rebel home page, where owners can add to the already plentiful games and utilities that come with Rebel. Still, Rebel does need to become a windows program in the future, as it does seem to suffer certain peculiarities of a Dos program - It occasionally crashes in windows, and how one moves the pieces with the mouse, seems more clunky to me then chess programs that are made for windows. But Rebel9 does win my heart with its very human like style, and its outstanding feature set. On a scale from 1 to 10, I would give it an 8. It is also very reasonably priced so one can hardly go wrong in buying it, especially as the technical support from Schroder B.V. is a company that really cares about what their customers think, and tries to accommodate their desires in the subsequent versions. Name Don Prohaska Email prohaska@ccis.com It is obvious that Rebel 9 is by far the best Dos chess program ever developed. It is fast. It is bug free. Even though it can be easily run through Windows95, I think it is best run from Dos. After all it is a Dos program. Window95 hogs ram, even it you are running any Dos program through a Windows short cut. I don't know how much more Rebel can do in Dos. Future versions will probably have to be in Windows, even though that might cause the Rebel engine some weaknesses. It seems so much more can be done in Windows. Regardless, Rebel is the closest to a Windows program that you can have in Dos. Great program. Support is great, probably the best! Name Email jgmreuling@tref.nl Ik vind het een zeer mooi programma. Alleen zou ik de tijdcontroles wat uitgebreid zien, b.v. 40 zetten in 2 uur en de rest van de partij in 1 uur of 30 min, andere programma's zijn hierin beter voorzien. Ik speel zeer veel via de autoplayer tegen andere programma's en Rebel komt daar toch wel als beste uit. Name Bill Ross Email 74633.610@compuserve.com so far I like rebel 8 better (when I could configure it to 60mg. Rebel 9 only goes to 28??? I would like a help button. Support is poor. Remark of the Schröder BV You can get 60 Mb hash tables in Rebel9 in the same way as Rebel8. See the README file. HELP is supplied, see your Rebel9 quick-guide. Go to the pulldown menu item you want HELP, then click or press "?" and Rebel9 will go to the right place in the manual. Name William Fasse Email william.fasse@hermes.okol.oamk.fi Best all around chess program I have ever seen. But their seems to be a problem in the database as after you rewrite a game if you continue moving thereafter the program has its own idea of the position and or whose move it is. Remark of the Schröder BV We can confirm this. Press HOME to bypass the problem. Name John Crooks Email MiCrooks@aol.com Have owned all of the Chessmaster series and have enjoyed their capable play. Recently with 5000, I was disappointed in the bugs in the database features as well as a persistent emphasis on funky chess sets and boards. I have always played with top down pieces as I find all 3D boards to date too hard to see. I started looking for other chess programs on the net, and ran into Rebel early on. I downloaded Decade, but again was frustrated as it was a DOS program which consistently crashed under Win95 on my machine. I got on Rebel's mailing list and was sent notices of the release of 9.0. After months of consideration, I bit the bullet and ordered it. The bonus disk helped make up my mind BTW. I am quite pleased with it. It plays wonderfully well. I am still somewhat frustrated by occasional crashes under Win95, but some tweeks to the settings have made them les frequent. I love the ability to easily scan through databases, replay games, and jump in with a quality chess engine to do analysis. Keep up the good work. I'm sold! Name Jochen Schoof Email schoof@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de To make it short, Rebel9 is a great chess program and comes with more additional material (tools, databases, opening books, etc.) than any other program I know. The possibility to get updates to this material via the internet is another big plus for Schroder BV. As a customer you recognize that you are still taken care of after already having spend your money, which is not as usual as it should be. I have to admit that one of Rebel's most important features for me is, that it still is a DOS program. I don't like Windows and try to avoid it whereever possible. Nearly every chess program became a Win- dows application during the last few years and so I'm very happy to be able to use a very powerful DOS-based program. And of course being DOS-based does not mean Rebel does not run in Windows. If you need to use it from Win, it works quite fine. So the only thing I can do is thank Schroder BV for an excellent program I really like to use. After stating my big sympathies for Rebel9, I also have to report a bug it seems to have inherited from Rebel8, for which I already reported it some time ago: When using Rebel on a PC with lots of harddisk or at least lots of partitions the "Open Database" menu does not seem to work correctly. In the headline the drive letters C to J (all my disk partitions) are printed. When trying to move further in that list using the cursor keys, Rebel tries to access my floppy drive with no success no matter if a disk is inserted or not. It is not possible to get to drive letters beyond J. Removing a harddisk entry in the BIOS setup makes the CD-ROM's drive letter (R in my case) shows up and can easily be selected. This is of course not a comfortable way to use databases from CD. I have to admit that my system's setup is not a usual one, but nevertheless I think the behaviour described above is not intended. I would be more than happy to get a fix for this problem. Please feel free to contact me for even more detailed descriptions of the problem. My experience is, that Schroder BV is interested in improving their products and I therefore hope you appreciate this report. Remark of the Schröder BV We will fix this. For the moment use the command SUBST which bypasses the problem. Name Calvin P. Roach Email daroach@c2i2.com Please fix your search algorithm. When I search for Kasparov wins playing black, I get Kasparov loses playing black. I like to search by name, position and results. Rebel 9.0 allows me to search by results and name or position only. The program should be tested by many chess players (non-intersted party). I am disappointed right now with Rebel 9.0 Calvin Remark of the Schröder BV Enter blackname="Kasparov" and score="+". This will do the job for you. Name Mike Cooter Email I own many other chess programs (Fritz5, Hiarcs,Genius, Virtual Chess, Mchess) and this is in my top two favorites. Even for a dos application, it still has a clean easy to use interface. Its opening book is the best out of all my programs. In running program vs program tests, my Rebel 9 comes out of book with a higher eval in most cases. It is a very well prepared and written book. My question is how to run the included BT2830. Do I note the time of when the solution if FIRST found or when it finally moves? Remark of the Schröder BV Enter each position into your computer, and let it think for 15 minutes. If a position is solved, write down its solution time in seconds. It doesn't count as a solution if the program finds, the move and then changes its mind. If after finding a move, then changing its mind, then finding it again, you should use the last time found. Any solution that is not found, score as 900 seconds. Add up all the times. To calculate the ELO formula: BS2830: ELO = 2830 - (TT/17)^2 TT = total time in MINUTES BT2630: ELO = 2630 - (TT/30) TT = total time in SECONDS BT2450: ELO = 2450 - (TT/30) TT = total time in SECONDS BT2450 and BT2630 are provided with Rebel 9.0 BS2830 can be downloaded from the subscription area. Name Arnt Veenstra Email arnt@xs4all.nl Ik heb een paar bugs ontdekt in Rebel 9. 1. Laad de volgende positie in Rebel: 7r/p2n1pp1/2k5/1p1rP2p/n6P/R3KPB1/6P1/1R1N4 w Wit is hier dus aan zet. Selecteer Analysis exclude en sluit de zet 1.Nc3 uit. Rebel loopt nu vast en zal de PC zelfs resetten! 2. Laad een partij uit een database. Rewrite de partij naar de database. Rebel heeft het aantal zetten van de partij nu terug gezet naar 1. Dit blijkt bijvoorbeeld als Rebel gaat analyseren. Rebel zal 'nadenken' over zetten als 1.e4 en 1.d4, alsof we aan het begin van een nieuwe partij zijn... Ik ben graag bereid om meer informatie te geven als dit bugreport niet compleet genoeg is. De beide bugs treden wel op 2 verschillende PC's op identieke wijze op. Remark of the Schröder BV In Power Analyze Exclude zit inderdaad nog een kleine bug. De "Rewrite" zaak is ons inmiddels ook al bekend. Als je na "Rewrite op HOME drukt is het probleem verholpen. Bedankt voor de tips. Name Anthony Schleizer Email schleize@che.utexas.edu I have Rebel 9.0 Light. I like it a lot, but it keeps crashing my computer. I have a 100MHz Dell Latitude XPi (Pentium) with 8M RAM and 540M HD. If I look at some games in the database and then try to play a game or if I enter a game, play thru it with the analysis on and then try to play a game against Rebel my computer crashes. Remark of the Schröder BV Most known problems are described in the README file. You can do this inside Rebel 9.0 via the EXT menu and then select the README item. If this doesn't solve your problem please sent email. Name Email A very good program. However, I would like it to be a Windows 95 Compatible program capable of being multitasked; so that I can play it against another program at the same time Name C.N. Dorado Email cnd@mx2.redestb.es In some positions, Rebel 9 is slower than Rebel 8, Why ? Remark of the Schröder BV Rebel 9.0 has more chess knowledge than Rebel 8.0. This extra chess knowledge is superior above some speed loss, see the Rebel 9.0 results on this home page Name Richard Burlant Email I find Rebel 9 very unstable when accessing the Bonus CD ROM. Crashes and other strange things occur quite often. I am using an IBM clone with 16MB and 133MHZ. On the whole, the programs works great. I love it ! Remark of the Schröder BV a) Re-install the Bonus Cdrom using the option install "databases" and "opening books" and the INSTALL program will take care of removing the cdrom "read only" mark from all the files. b) OR copy selected files from the Cdrom and remove the "read only" mark using ATTRIB -R *.* Name allan johnson Email allan@mail.bhq.net.au I have found Rebel9 a very strong program. What a pity it can't be put into a dedicated chess board. Ho hum;dream on! My main criticism is that it is a dos based program.Please make it windows 95 based. I'd like also to be able print games. I have put many difficult positions to Rebel9,Hiarcs6,Genius4,Fritz5 and Chessmaster5500 and in 95% of the positions Rebel9 has found the "correct" answer more quickly than the other programs. Name Marian & Sebastian Predescu Email Marian.Predescu@Cognos.com Hello, We've just upgraded to Rebel9 and we like it very much, with one big exception, so far: Analyzing a database seems to stop after move 1 ?! I've used Win'95 with 80 Mb RAM using your Rebwin64.pif(or such). The level was set to 6 Plys deep and then I went into the Databases/Utilities/Analyze database and specified the output into a different database. Rebel9 started to analyze move one from each game, wrote the output (games one move long) into the new databases and then stopped, leaving me in the Database menu again, with no sign of wanting to continue the analysis. I know you guys mentioned that "if analyzing a database is stopped, it will pick it up from where it was left", but it stopped all by itself(not by us and the application still got the focus) Any clues? Remark of the Schröder BV "Analyse database" is for positions. Use "Analyse Game(s) from the database menu "Utilities" Other then that: - The rest of the database functions we've seen so far are cool: the small boards, showing the name of the opening, backing up the moves and evaluating, etc. You guys are really taking advantage of the speed of the Assembly language(that lets you load parts of the games as the user scrolls through the database) and I admire you dedication and professionalism (especially now, when most of us programmers go for the comfort of higher-level languages) in picking the fastest and most compact programming language available. -We were looking forward to search functions(such as search by pattern) and if they live up to the expectations, there won't be any need to switch to databases like ChessBase anymore! It's very convenient to have a chess playing program with such a rich database interface! - We(especially my son Sebastian, a 9 year old scholastic champion who will represent Canada in the World Youth Chess Championship, in the Under 10 section, in France, next week) appreciate the opening books; the fact that they show alternate book moves, the deep of lines, the new analyzed opening books we've seen some). They speed up the learning curve, being much easier to use then printed books(of course printed books still have their importance). - About openings; we've asked you from the times of Rebel Decade if you don't have a feature to "practice an opening" Rebel9 has now, on the Bonus CD, the "Booktutor", but from what we've seen it could stand some easy to make improvements, like: more ...openings and annotations(notes), please! - Also a "tree"; the possibility to enter/have lines in your games scores would be greatly appreciated. - We didn't understand why the analysis of a game/move stops when touching the menus? - More flexible time controls would be appreciated - What we liked most is the "human like" playing style of Rebel9!!! We've alleyways liked it, even in early versions. - We would like more hints about what makes Rebel9 determine if a position is better or worse. Especially in closed positions when the computer didn't have enough counter play, it still thought its position was better( only because of some space advantage, I presume), while a powerful attack was under preparation against it. Even then, my son's coach(an International Master) agreed that the computer was able to set up some tactical traps, but still we were all kind of puzzled of his kind of "reversed" evaluation. Nevertheless, you can see from the above example that all kind of chess players can find good value in Rebel9(amateurs like me, national scholastic champions like my son or International Masters, like his coach) - On the same line, we are curios to have more insight about the "book learning" feature. - We couldn't find a quick way and intuitive way to try some of the new features, like analyzing selected moves or excluding moves from the analysis. Even the "context sensitive" help doesn't seem to provide enough hints, sometimes. -The list of nice and good features could go on, and I'm sure that in time we'd love Rebel9 even more(once we get used to it). As a final note, I would like to take the opportunity to thank Mr. Schroder also for his kind gesture of awarding Rebel8 a few months ago to my son, after the "Mate in 15" contest. Now, that we've upgraded to Rebel9, we can reaffirm that not only Rebel is our favorite chess program from the playing strength and style points of view, but it is also the closest to the ultimate chess environment one can get. Thank you, Marian and Sebastian Predescu, Ottawa, Canada Name Wes Green Email Playing strength is excellent. I particularly like the analysis mode of parallel evaluation of Rebel's move and the move made in the game. I also like the feature which permits display of the top 4 moves, and the ability to see several layers of the ongoing evaluation process. Compatibility with Windows95 is excellent, though there are a couple of bugs somewhere that have occasionally produced a memory access violation. They have shown up very rarely, however. Name Harald Faber Email HaraldF@t-online.de Excellent playing strength, don't know whether Hiarcs or MCP are stronger (only time and SSDF will tell). Certainly stronger than Rebel8. Now nice database-features. Copy protection now very user-friendly! A must-program for each chess player! Name Manfred Meiler Email manfred.meiler@esn01.telekom.de G O O D: Playing strength (BS2830 on Pentium 2/300 MHz, 60 MB Hash: 2.595 ELO), DB-options/handling, PGN-/EPD-Support, history analysis, no copy protection, 60 ply depth, max. 60 MB Hash Bonus CD ROM, Internet subscription B A D: only DOS-Version, best 4 variations (in Super Info) without scores, no CBF-support. Name Chris Taylor Notts Email Khristay@aol.com I like the program It is nice and simple, Simply strong and easy to use!! The graphics are pleasing to use, easy on the eye for long periods! The database functions are really good,and with pgn support it makes the program really useful! It is a joy to use! Chris Taylor Notts England Name Kai Middleton Email midd9354@uidaho.edu My impression is that the creators of Rebel aim to make a practical chess program that will meet the needs of chess students and practitioners in the most straightforward way. Thus they have emphasized a strong engine (Rebel is probably currently the strongest on PCs), a custom chess user- interface, basic database and book functions (usually thought of as being beyond the realm of a chess playing program) and flexible analysis features. I want to play a chess computer that is able to play at a level high enough above my own so that its chess is of a natural style. Further I want to store and analyze the games I play. I also want to configure the opening book so I can use it as an opening trainer. Rebel lets me accomplish these goals. Some of the little features I like a lot are the game overview in 15 positions, and the miniatures in the database view showing the opening and end position of each game in the list. Cool program! Name Fernando Villegas Email ferdinan@cmet.net Professional chess soft in all the senseS. ALMOST nothing left to be desired, except better personal acumen to get some chances to win it. Name Bill Email IPLAYCHESS@prodigy.net I feel that REBEL 8 is still just a bit better in ease of use. My main purpose is to be able to study Opneings, Middle games, and End games and afterwards play a very strong game using what I just learned. The Rebel 9 has alot of extras but just as Rebel 8 the manual for setting up the functions best to play with is vague with no sample set-ups like book on or off the brain on or off how do Iset up the best possible areana for play. I tried to follow the manual on the book tutor and it still never works as the manual instructs. I would like to be able to practice an opening with Rebel9 from a list of openings to choose from. I collect every chess program there is on the market to see if its worth having and chessmaster 5000 is best for practicing openings, XTREME chess is best to play a rated game, I could go on and on but I think you get the picture. I would be glad to be a BETA tester for any Rebel products since I have many years playing and testing chess software. Name Detlef Pordzik Email elvispcd@owl-online.de I was among those, who stated, that the use of a chess program in high rated CC tournaments in middle game to answer certain questions, even in overnight analysis, is nearly a waste of time. I must confess, that I partly had to change my mind, after analyzing the first analyzes of R9 here.... Artur Jussupow said, that he never saw R9 doin' a useless, silly move in his match against him. I personally are lightyears behind the qualities of a A.Yussopow, but I've got quite some experience with chess computers, programs- and, of course, inn CC - more than 20 years.... R9 catches up to be a dangerous ( serious ) tool even in IM title tournaments....gee..... Beside this, the times, where one received a new program + handled it blind after a few hours, seems to be over, too. R9 has SO many functions / features / possibilities built in, that one needs quite some time to find out, at all. remark : even, if not supposed....R9 STILL works pleasantly together with the Tascboards.... btw : normal - no " 4 board option " needed at all.... critics : Schröder BV still couldn't correct the error in normal DOS 6.2 mode with 64 or 128 MB RAM : " a page error has been occured...." so, one still can use R9 only in the DOS "x" configuration. Rob Kemper siad, this has something to do with the himem.sys but, I guess this one is needed allways there..... you really should solve this ( when R 10 comes as a cd with the WINDOWS version + the DOS version added for convenience .... :) Remark of the Schröder BV Please take a look in the README file. You can do this inside Rebel 9.0 via the EXT menu and then select README.TXT Name michel goldsteen Email mgold@vlijmen.demon.nl Rebel 9 has given a new impuls to my love for chess and a deeper insight of the manner one thinks, michel goldsteen Name Robert Sherman Email rsherman@interlog.com Rebel 9 is an extremely strong chess-playing program written by Ed Schroder, with the user interface written by Robert Kemper, and the opening book developed by Jeroen Noonan. I first became interested in the Rebel programs when I downloaded Rebel Decade, soon after I purchased Rebel 8, which became my most troublesome chess opponent. I didn't plan on purchasing Rebel 9 because I didn't feel that Rebel 8 could be improved enough to satisfy me. But when I heard about the new features and the Rebel Bonus disk I changed my mind. Now that I have it, the Rebel Bonus CD is just icing on the cake. The program plays very strong chess and is very difficult to beat by closing the position and coming up with better plans. Although as I mentioned on CCC it can be beaten on a Pentium 100 mhz. The database has been improved and has several neat features. My favourite is the little chessboard which shows you the final position when you browse through games. Many times the names of the players peak your interest but when you load in the game you are dissapointed to see a boring game. With Rebel's database you can quickly see which games are exciting by vie!wing the small chessboard and you can get Rebel 9's evaluation right away from that position or quicly backtrack a few moves to see the final winning combination. What attracted me to the Rebel Bonus CD was other then the fact that it had many interesting databases and utilities but it also had databases which showcased single players. This way you can see your chess hero's wins and losses. This way you can see what weaknesses he may have had that appeared to be transparent when you only see the wins. Rebel 9 is not a perfect program (I guess Ed Schroder is saving that Rebel 10!) It has a few weaknesses, namely being a lack of printing function and a slow database search. It is still the perfect program for 99.9% of chess players. I highly recommend it purchase Name Karsten Jacobsen Email kardrag@post5.tele.dk All in all I think Rebel 9.0 is easy to use, has a nice (but very oldfashioned) interface. It's playingstrength is the best I know of. I would very much like to know why Rebel in it's analysis finds that a specific move is the best? And when Rebel is analysing, why can't you see the whole range of possible moves? But for now, thanks to the people at Schröder BV for a good product! Name Phil Email JonahNJ@aol.com Excellent playing tool! Im still having Window95 problems. Ive downloaded all the suggested add-ons and theyve helped a little. Cant use "sound on" because it crashes the program. Wish I knew how "sound" affects it so much and how I can remedy it. Remark of the Schröder BV Please take a look in the README file. You can do this inside Rebel 9.0 via the EXT menu and then select README.TXT Name Rafael Vasquez Email rvasquezs@hotmail.com I own all the major Chess Programs available and consider REBEL as the More complete product. It's very strong (it's power is consistent in all the phases: opening,middlegame and endgame). It's database improvements are getting better and better. The simultaneous option is higly important as a tool for a sderious player preparation (not only fun!). I will continue working with REBEL and recognize Ed Schroder as a top performer in CHESS programming. Name Ulf Flörsheimer Email floers@aol.com Rebel spielt ein freches, munteres Schach, wobei er manchmal dazu neigt, in mobilen Stellungen die Chancen des Gegners zu unterschätzen. Ich habe den Eindruck, daß Rebel 6 zwar langweiliger, aber solider spielte als Rebel 9. Dennoch: Der Weg ist richtig, denn was die Computerschachfreunde nicht wollen, ist der zähe, trockene Stil eines Genius. Ansonsten ist zu sagen, daß Rebel 9 durch solide Features überzeugt. Es ist aber auch der Punkt gekommen, an dem man Ed Schröder wünschen möchte, es nicht zu übertreiben, denn: Man kann ein Program auch in Features buchstäblich "ersäufen" (armer Chessmaster!). Ich wünsche dem Schröder-Team weiterhin viel Erfolg und wünschte, Rebel 10 würde taktisch ein bißchen stärker spielen. Name Marc van Hal Email cesaer3@worldonline.nl Rebel is one of the strongest programma,s there is it plays dynamical and has good database functions and tools for book analyzes and what they did give away for free is absolutly incredible and service they also do give a lot manny other programmers could learn something out of that Name Jerry Watson Email jwatson@jill.reno.nv.us Rebel 9.0 is a great program. I've also owned Rebel 6, 7, and 8. I've learned a lot by looking at your opening books, and the data is first rate. Rebel support on the internet is good, and must remain so. I would like to see a more text intensive analysis feature that could point out weaknesses, possible combinations, or the reason WHY Rebel rates a position as it does. The ability to read ChessBase and other database formats is important. (Sadly, I've retired my NicBase 3.0 in favor of ChessBase 6.0) However....you MUST cave in to the Gates Monster and make it a Windows 95/8 program. A dream feature would be the ability to directly access the engines of other programs (Fritz, CM4000-5500, Hiarcs, etc) to play engine against engine. If this were done, the only other possible improvement would be a direct esp link to Rebel while I am playing otb so that Rebel could help with the analysis.(g) Thanks for a great product. Jerry Watson, Sparks, Nevada USA, inviting all to the 100th (!) US Open in Reno, Nevada USA in 1999. Name Manuel Rodriguez Email positron3@hotmail.com The Best program i know and this is for two simply reason: 1) The top playing strength. 2) A lot of Opcions. Name Email I like the possibility to play different engines against each other. I would like the possibility to give the engines different times in order to explore what differences the time make in playing sterngth. Name Sylvanus McLeod Email sly@cliffhanger.com Rebel9 is possible the strongest commercialy available chess software that I have seen. The only software that comes remotely close is Hiarcs6. I enjoy playing against Rebel9 and most of all the built in auto232 is a hit. The database is quite good and the analysis of a game is also good. The downside of the program is you cannot offer a draw, and you cannot resign. Overall it's a very good program. Name Paul Cotti Email cotti@map.com I run with 48 megs of virtual memory on a 133 Pentium with 16 megs of ram. Rebel keeps the HD working pretty hard. On all my other applications restricting the virtual memory significantly speeds up the computer. Possibly Rebel 10 will have better memory management. Keeping Rebel a DOS based program will eventually severely limit your market. Remark of the Schröder BV Limit Rebel 9.0 hash table a little using: a) the command line parameters W1-W6 b) Use the provided shortcut REBWIN16.PIF More info in the README file. You can do this inside Rebel 9.0 via the EXT menu and then select README.TXT Sacrificing some playing strength to the Windows interface will probably be a good trade off. Windows NT is the future. I expect Windows 98 will be the last operating system that will support DOS. Name Raymond Vingerhoeds Email raymond@hvision.nl Zonder twijfel tot op dit moment het sterkst spelend schaakprogramma. Vele opties maken het dat het voor vrijwel iedere schaakliefhebber een prima programma is. Van Rebel 8 was ik al zeer onder de indruk, maar deze nieuwe versie overtreft Rebel 8, zeker op het gebied van de database-functies! Wat ik persoonlijk nog steeds jammer vindt is dat er naast de DOS-versie nog steeds geen Windows-versie op de markt is; wellicht wordt Rebel 10 (een magisch getal!?) een programma in beide versies.... Opvallend vind ik dat Rebel 9 in de BT2630 test ten opzichte van Rebel 8 minder scoort, gekeken naar de tijd die het programma nodig heeft om de juiste zet te vinden. Ik houd hierbij de 9 ply en de 4MB hash aan die ook aangegeven worden op de Rebel computer benchmark. Stelling 5 wist Rebel 9 op te lossen waar Rebel 8 het antwoord niet kon vinden binnen de hierboven gestelde eisen. Overigens hulde aan het gehele Rebel-team het weer voor elkaar heeft om een top-product op de markt te brengen!! Name Ralph Hellmig Email ralph.joerg.hellmig@tu-clausthal.de Rebel 9.0 is without doubt one of my favourite chess programs. This results from its very good analysis features and the really good playing strength. I normally use it to save and analyze my competitive games, having a database with my own annotated games. The user interface is really nice, I am not so much a fan of stunning graphics, a usable 2d-board is what I really need. Rebel is one of the most featured chess programs I know, and what is more important: Most of the features are very usable for a serious chessplayer. I just think Rebel 9.0 is a nice solution between chess playing system and databases, also for opening preparation, hence it is a really valuable helf to improve my personal play, a nice sparring partner and ideal for preparation competitive games. Name Jeff LaHue Email Before seeing REBEL 9.0 I had wondered how this release could be any better than REBEL 8. Well, Schroder BV succeeded with the greatly expanded database features and such niceties as the small boards, multiple game analysis, and book analysis-- it is much better than REBEL 8. Name Moritz Berger Email Top 10 things I like 1. Excellent chess playing engine 2. Extended Autoplayer 232 and Chess232 support 3. Good bread and butter database capabilities and then some (statistics, auto-rename, double elimination) 4. No copy protection, excellent database and opening book update service via free Internet Bonus subscription 5. .PGN, .EPD support, .CBF, Nicbase import, Bookup analysis and import/export of e-mail chess-forms, opening book import from Genius, Fritz 4 and Chessmaster 6. Ingenious shuffle book option 7. Overnight book analysis, pre-analyzed extensive theme books available via Rebel 9 homepage for registered users 8. Outstanding help system, extensive tutorials 9. Analysis options, presentation of evaluation details 10. Playing-strength adjustable to suit everybody’s needs: auto-increase, decrease, randomize, ELO-rating-level, 3 global strength levels Top 10 things I hate 1. DOS program, doesn’t run under NT 2. No nested variants in game score 3. Doesn’t support .CBF (only via import) and .CBH (not at supported at all) database formats (although here ChessBase is to blame for not making these formats publicly available) 4. Limited opening book annotation symbols (only play or not play) 5. Learning weightings are not user-editable 6. Way too inflexible timing options, no Fischer clock, no move increment, no adjustable time odds (different time controls for computer and opponent), no adjustable e.g. 37 moves / 43 minutes level. 7. Rebel .mvs books cannot be edited, there’s no way to convert the rebel.mvs main book to an editable .rbm file. 8. Some hotkeys (e.g. Alt+P -> Alt+Q) have changed from previous releases. 9. If you access the menu bar, the chess engine is halted and has to be restarted on the current position. Still annoying even for Rebel veterans like me. 10. Impact of learning function is not even remotely explained (a well kept competitive secret by the programmer). At least I know that it's some kind of book learning, but it's not adjustable and doesn't take into account opponents strength and time controls (the latter being idle speculation by myself in he absence of tangible information). Top 10 reasons to upgrade (besides the top 10 things I like) 1. Greatly improved database handling (!!!) 2. Tons of study material (chess problems, games, opening books) and utilities on Bonus CD 3. Book learning and pre-analysis capability 4. Direct .PGN file support (no conversion necessary) 5. Improved chess engine 6. Analysis exclude option 7. Search on pattern, search on material 8. Improved game overview with evaluation scores 9. Build in autoplayer (available engines: Rebel 7,8,9, Decade) 10. Extensive set of chess material and utilities on Bonus CD Name Peter Schreiner Email pitters@aol.com Rebel 9.0 ist ein rundum perfekt ausgestattetes Schachsystem, das sich ganz klar an einen Anwenderkreis wendet, der in erster Linie mit seinem Programm intensiv arbeiten und trainieren will. Mir persönlich gefällt die sachliche und funktionale Aufmachung des Programms außerordentlich gut; - der Bucheditor, die Datenbank- funktionen und vor allem die vielfältigen Analysehilfen sind vom Feinsten. Ob der begehrte Spitzenplatz in der SSDF wieder erreicht werden kann, bleibt erst einmal abzuwarten; - die Chancen dafür sind aber mit Sicherheit nicht schlecht. Nach meiner Ansicht ist Rebel 9.0 ist sogenanntes Pflichtprogramm", das man einfach besitzen muß. Zum Erscheinungstermin der Rochade Anfang Oktober ist das Programm voraussichtlich schon im Fachhandel für 198.-DM verfügbar; für das Update sind schlappe 98.-DM fällig. Ich wünsche Ihnen viel Spaß beim Experimentieren mit Rebel 9.0. Falls Sie über eine Anbindung an das Internet verfügen sollten und an einem Erfahrungsaustausch interessiert sind, würde ich mich über eine Email sehr freuen. Name Wybe Koopmans Email larsmans@worldaccess.nl Rebel 9.0 is naar mijn mening een zeer sterk schaakprogramma. Bijzonder eraan vind ik dat er vele opties aanwezig zijn, waarbij de gebruiker veel naar eigen wens kan instellen. Van schaakdatabank tot simultaanspelen. Kortom zeer compleet. Er zit voor elke schaker wel wat bij. Zijn er eigenlijk zaken die te wensen overblijven ? Jazeker, wat is een mens zonder wensen ? Zo zou ik graag zien dat de analyses van Rebel niet als tekst, maar als variant wordt weergegeven. Uitbreiding van het aantal speelnivo's met bijvoorbeeld de Fischer-klok. Een zogenaamde "echte" toernooi optie, waarbij terugnemen van zetten, niet mogelijk is. eventueel gekoppeld aan een rating-systeem. De mogelijkheid van het aanbieden van remise aan Rebel. Verder zou ik (ik weet niet of dit uitvoerbaar is) graag een relatie zien, tussen de te gekozen opening door Rebel een de ingestelde speelstijl. Bijvoorbeeld: de speelstijl is agressief, Rebel mag dan wel Siciliaans spelen maar beslist geen Russisch. Maar al met al, kan ik U REBEL 9.0 van harte aanbevelen. Name Hans van Raaij Email Door alle nieuwe mogelijkheden is Rebel 9 uitgegroeid tot een veelzijdig programma dat niet alleen uitstekend schaakt, maar ook op het gebied van analyse en het bijhouden van partijendatabases het nodige te bieden heeft. Daarbij komen nog twee bijzondere extra's: de 'update service' en de bonus CD-ROM waar elders op deze site uitgebreide informatie over te vinden is. Alles bij elkaar een bijzonder aantrekkelijk totaalpakket! |